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		<title>How much money does a trainer make? (Part 2)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Philippe Til</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week I delved into how just because you pay boatloads of cash for your membership at the &#8220;plasma screens&#8217;R'us&#8221; and &#8220;supermodels work the front desk&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean you get the best trained coaches. Yes, they are certified, went through an in-house training program (some parts they had to pay for, yet is mandatory if [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://action-fitness.com/wordpress/what-chain-gyms-dont-want-you-to-know-part-1/">Last week</a> I delved into how just because you pay boatloads of cash for your membership at the &#8220;plasma screens&#8217;R'us&#8221; and &#8220;supermodels work the front desk&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean you get the best trained coaches. Yes, they are certified, went through an in-house training program (some parts they had to pay for, yet is mandatory if they want to work).<br />
Now I&#8217;m going to tell you the nitty-gritty stuff that only an employee knows, and to get access to this, I had to be undercover.</p>
<p><strong>BODIES IN MOTION</strong>:<br />
Just like I do, they offer sliding scales rewarding frequency of training and volume purchase. The more you buy and/or the more frequently you train, the more you save (or the less you pay per session). Makes sense, good business model and the prices are also all spelled out for you. As a matter of fact, you get to see all the options up front, and they throw in an incentive which is your Day Of Join, and another on your Day Of CPT (Complimentary Persona Training session). They have 60 and 30-minute long sessions to accommodate your busy schedule, or your limited budget if you do want training but can&#8217;t quite afford or spare 60 minutes to achieve your goal (that&#8217;s what TiVo&#8217;s for, or last season&#8217;s DVDs of Nip/Tuck if you want to save on cable, by the way, or save time, but that&#8217;s another story).<br />
The rates are fair, to be honest, and given the choice, I&#8217;ve seen some good trainers there (Encino location), though some could benefit from reading my post on functional training (and so can you if you don&#8217;t want to get duped by a fancy word that helps sell). All trainers are at the same rate level. Their payout is dependent solely on their productivity. The more they train, the more they get paid (obviously) but the greater their percentage, or cut.<br />
Here&#8217;s how they break it down:<br />
1) Trainer gets 30% of what you pay if they train less than 15 hours a week.<br />
2) 35% between 16 and 30 hours per week.<br />
3) 37% between 31 and 35 hours per week.<br />
4) 40% for anything above 36 hours per week.</p>
<p>Training over 30 hours is honestly hard to achieve in a week. Not impossible. There will always be a cancelation here and there, be it with 24 hours notice or not. No pay if proper notice, pay if under 24 hours, but since you didn&#8217;t work the hour, it doesn&#8217;t count towards your &#8220;fulfillment pay&#8221;, meaning you can get 35 hours paid at only 30% if 5 people canceled without proper notice. That&#8217;s rip-off #1 by the gym to the trainer.</p>
<p><strong>EQUINOX:</strong><br />
At <a href="http://www.equinox.com/Join/Default.aspx">Equinox</a>, rainers belong to 3 &#8220;tiers&#8221;. Top tier gets paid the most. Bally&#8217;s used to have that system, which was based on certifications (the more specialties and certifications you have the more you can charge, like a car with many options), but I understand it changed. At Equinox, the tiers, or levels, only have to do with your seniority in the gym. You can have a Master of Kinesiology, a Ph.D in biology, NASM and <a href="http://www.dragondoor.com/wpkb51.html?apid=Action4954&amp;abid=99e69e69" class="broken_link">RKC</a>, you&#8217;re still going to start putting weights away, handing towels and do floor time, or prospecting, for $8/hr. If you&#8217;re RKC (<a href="http://www.dragondoor.com/wpkb51.html?apid=Action4954&amp;abid=99e69e69" class="broken_link">Russian Kettlebell Certified</a>), you&#8217;re not allowed to touch a kettlebell (for instruction) until you&#8217;re Tier 3, sometimes Tier 2 if you pay for an Equinox-designed kettlebell workshop (with questionably knowledgeable instructors).<br />
Now, YOU pay even more than at Bodies In Motion, but your trainer gets just as little! And, if you are a fit, coordinated, advanced lifter/athlete, your trainer, though potentially overqualified, is still not allowed to train you at YOUR level, with HIS/HER expertise. It&#8217;s a great way to keep you doing the safe stuff. While I am a fervent proponent of the basics, there are some things I just don&#8217;t believe in and cannot ethically make a person do them just because some bureaucrat decided for me, not knowing my client. Result: you don&#8217;t get what you asked for. Rip-off #2</p>
<p><strong>STAFFING:</strong><br />
Gyms like to overstaff their facility, resulting in trainers competing for the same pool of clients. Instead of having a trainer work say, 10 clients for 20 sessions, you have 5 trainers fighting for those 10 clients, getting 2 each and working 4 hours each instead of 20. Great for the gym: same amount of training, but less salary to pay out to trainers, thus more profit for the gym. That&#8217;s rip-off #3.<br />
At Bally&#8217;s for instance, you get $2 pay cuts in increments: Full pay at 50 hours per pay period (25/week), -$2 at 20-50 hours, and another -$2 at 20 and under, and another cut at under 10 hours. That&#8217;s up to $6 less per hour the trainer is not getting, but you&#8217;re still paying for it. AND, you could have been conned into a top tier trainer, because you paid the asking price, but your trainer might not even be certified! (Some trainers there have trained that way for years, with a Photoshop cert, or lapsed one, or not even having one). Rip-off #4.</p>
<p><strong>Why Should You Care?</strong><br />
Since this doesn&#8217;t affect your bottom line, you&#8217;re still paying your 75 bucks for the training, why is this important for you to know? Well, look at it this way: you pay $75, but your trainer only gets $22.5 for the hour. &#8220;Hey, that&#8217;s not bad, that&#8217;s more than I make, or about the same, and this trainer&#8217;s getting paid for working out? He/She should be lucky for such an easy gig!&#8221;<br />
If that&#8217;s how you think, which I know some of you do, allow me to retort: if it&#8217;s such an easy gig, then your trainer is not doing the job. I, for instance, know nothing of how to code a web site, design a 3D character for a video game, clean your teeth or rewire your ignition. But I know physiology, form, progression, assessments of posture, gait, working with injuries, how to treat it, individual program design, biomechanics, neuromuscular facilitation, a multitude of training protocols, endocrine and CNS effects on the body and that&#8217;s only the tip of the iceberg. What&#8217;s underwater is what the lay person doesn&#8217;t know, or think they know from reading a magazine, which more often than not is the reason why they&#8217;re not achieving their goal. Most people are actually walking around injured, but are asymptomatic. Some people even got offended when I exposed weaknesses they touted as strengths.</p>
<p>But I digress. The point I want to make is: You may make $20/hr, but you make it consistently, every hour you&#8217;re clocked in. You get benefits (retirement, health insurance), bonuses, vacation, sick days, holidays and have your infrastructure paid for. You also are not RUNNING YOUR OWN BUSINESS! Whether the trainer works at Bally&#8217;s or on their own, they run their business. You&#8217;re not paying your trainer for the hour. You&#8217;re paying your trainer for all the years of experience and thousands poured into their education. If your trainer is happy getting so little for that, QUESTION their ability! Trainers need to hustle all the time (as I mentioned before) and oftentimes, Management does little to help. And when they do, it&#8217;s to promote the business, not the individual. Please read on.</p>
<p><strong>PERSONAL TRAINING IS RESULTS ORIENTED:</strong><br />
When I was fitness manager at <a href="http://bodiesinmotion.com/default.aspx">Bodies In Motion</a>, they wanted me to sell packages of as little as 3-8 sessions, for the 3x per week rate, for someone to only show up once every other week. I always refused to do that for my business, because you simply CANNOT monitor any consistent progress when you see someone 1 hour per week and that have 167 to screw it all up. Everyone SHOULD have a trainer AT SOME POINT, even I do, hence my investment in my education. Alas, not everyone can. The trainer, not matter what the trainee does, bears the sole responsibility for someone&#8217;s progress. We can motivate only so much, but if you don&#8217;t want it, or just expect it to happen, then sorry, you&#8217;re an idiot, you&#8217;re not accountable. When has ANYTHING worth doing NOT required some effort on your part? I recently read in a post someone asking to look like Brad Pitt in Fight Club. OK, it&#8217;ll take:<br />
1) 6 months of training.<br />
2) Perfect Nutrition, sleep, time management.<br />
3) Training intelligently several hours a day.<br />
4) A fit baseline (i.e. you can&#8217;t start looking like Jack Black or Dom De Luise).<br />
5) Get his genetic make-up.<br />
But, the person wanted that after training 2-3 times a week and not doing the rest?</p>
<p>So, why do we value the doctor, physical therapist or the lawyer? Because of their education, mostly. I&#8217;ve had some recent bad experiences with Western medicine doctors using medieval tools where I wound up more damaged than repaired, to the point of considering a malpractice suit. Alas, many idiot trainers plague the gyms and you, the public, do not always spot the difference because what you usually see in the gym is what you read in a fitness magazine, and that shapes your perception.</p>
<p><strong>HOW MUCH DO I CHARGE?GET PAID?</strong><br />
Clients who have been with me for years understand that:<br />
1) I run a business (and sometimes, those who still have an &#8220;employee mentality&#8221; need reminding).<br />
2) I have overhead.<br />
3) I am better: I have experience, skills and know-how. I&#8217;ve transformed my body many times, demonstrated by example and guaranteed results which, when all directives were followed, got people there. </p>
<p> I charge what I charge. How much is it? More or less than the 5 mile radius of Corporate Gyms&#8230; So what&#8217;s the difference in my take-home? A little more, but I am running my business, adapt instead of complain, deal with the boss directly and any setbacks our my own doing, can&#8217;t blame management, or poor member traffic. I am accountable for a product for which I have passion and investment. I am happy, the average &#8220;box&#8221; gym trainer is not, unless he/she takes you &#8216;under the table&#8217;. Don&#8217;t ask me for a deal if I present you a price. It&#8217;s already a deal. Take it or take your chance. You don&#8217;t haggle with your doctor, your lawyer or your grocer. You may look for the deal, the coupon, which I offer some times, but I am not a rug salesman or car salesman (no offense to those trades, but that is expected there).</p>
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		<title>What &#8220;Chain&#8221; Gyms Don&#8217;t Want You To Know (Part 1).</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Philippe Til</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[CONTROVERSY WARNING: I will name corporate gym chains and their practices. I will disclose things trainers should know when applying, as well as help people looking for trainer recognize when they&#8217;re getting a deal, ultimately helping both sides reach the best decision regarding what&#8217;s most important: training. This article is not weeks, but at this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CONTROVERSY WARNING: I will name corporate gym chains and their practices. I will disclose things trainers should know when applying, as well as help people looking for trainer recognize when they&#8217;re getting a deal, ultimately helping both sides reach the best decision regarding what&#8217;s most important: training.</p>
<p>This article is not weeks, but at this point, years in writing and is based mostly on my own experience in the trenches, as well as feedback from colleagues, clients and members. Because of recent research of mine for a business plan, I decided that the best way to research my competition was to go work for the competition (and in one case, just investigate as a member). Part 1 today, we&#8217;ll talk about the veil that&#8217;s being pulled over your eyes. I had to break it up because of the amount of information, even though I can fill a library with what I know now!</p>
<p><strong>The Tiffany Box Wrap</strong>:<br />
This is a PR concept that centers around branding and social proof. If you take a lump of coal and place it in a Tiffany brand box and wrap it, your perception of the lump of coal elevates it to something of high value. And because it&#8217;s Tiffany&#8217;s, someone will buy it, which will beget another purchase, and another and so forth, regardless of the quality. That&#8217;s social proof: if someone else is doing it, it must be good.</p>
<p>Apply that concept to an expensive gym chain, say, Equinox. While there may be a few good trainers there, your perception of the quality of training you may receive is elevated because they can pump serious dollars into their branding, the amenities of their gym and the very high price of training, something an independent trainer cannot compete with. You&#8217;re mostly paying for overhead, while the trainer gets 30% at best. Back in the day, that&#8217;s why I chose to train at Bally&#8217;s, arguably a less fancy facility, but with better payout per session, meaning the gap between what the client paid and what I was getting was narrower (at the time, since they now have adopted the same policy as their competitors, making it even more difficult to build a business). For a place like Sports Club L.A., you will get a price that is &#8220;fair&#8221; compared to Equinox, as their facility is very dated, with nasty carpet, but the payout to the trainer is not any better than Equinox. What Equinox and Sports Club offers though is a more affluent clientèle, which means more likely to afford training. And the powers that be know that, so they punk you! So, that $220 session you pay for only gets the veteran trainer (over 3 years) around $50, if the trainer works a full time gig, which is extremely difficult to pull off, considering client cancellations and available hours in the day when people actually DO train. Starting payout is about $23 per hour, the gym makes the difference. Yikes! An average trainer is lucky to get in 15-20 hours a week in this economy, in a corporate gym. Too many other trainers around to fight with. So the hourly incentive is very hard to reach! I just looked at a payroll at Bodies In Motion, and unless those trainers go home to the 1950&#8242;s, there is no way they can sustain a living with $169-$224 every 2 weeks. Means they have to get &#8220;creative&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Independent Trainers and Boutique Studios</strong>:<br />
Let&#8217;s switch tracks a bit and go to your independent trainer or boutique studio. Depending on the location, your boutique-sized training studio will offer a smaller, more personal feel. If it has a few trainers teaching there, they are either staff (and get paid very little to baby-sit a boot camp or circuit class, merely keeping you accountable rather than offering real training advice) or independent trainers who pay rent. Those are the trainers you want to go with (more in part 2). The indie trainer or studio doesn&#8217;t have the luxury of pumping cash into branding. Their job is to generate leads and get clients. The cost of getting a client these days is very high, especially with this economy. It takes free sessions (corporate gyms at least pay the trainer around $8/hr for the free session, for new trainers only), mailers, social media tools, health fairs, flyers and more just to get a potential client through the door, then they need to purchase a training package. While the potential for income is greater for the trainer without the cost being hijacked for the buyer, the quality of training usually surpasses that of a corporate gym trainer (the few that do well in corporate chains either have no room for new clients, or simply take their clients away from the gym because their income is peanuts. The client and the trainer both know that and if management was tuned in, they&#8217;d pay their trainers better and thus wouldn&#8217;t lose revenue from those clients). </p>
<p><strong>How Can I Say Indie Trainers Are Better?</strong><br />
The reason I say training with an independent trainer is usually better (I&#8217;ll name chain gyms with good trainers too, though) is because THEY NEED YOU TO SEE RESULTS to stay in business. Keeping a client is easier than getting a new client. They have much more at stake than in a corporate gym environment where member traffic is high, with a potential supply of fresh clients should some of them cancel. Knowledge and skill levels are much higher too. Take me for instance: I spend THOUSANDS yearly on education alone and am not recouping that cost. It only serves as a way to differentiate me from the next guy. I&#8217;m the car with all the bells and whistles for the price of a entry level luxury sedan (hey, no one ever said PT is for everyone!) vs. the same car without the options. Few corporate gyms offer the support and growth potential of an independent gym, Gold&#8217;s Gym being one of them, recognizing a trainer&#8217;s skill level and thoroughly checking their trainers out before hiring them.<br />
While other gyms allege to provide you with the tools to grow, they really want you to follow a cookie-cutter approach to training, whether you are a client or trainer. This &#8220;in-the-box&#8221; thinking has the quality trainer leave, frustrated by their high qualifications not being put to use. How fun is it for trainers knowing their skills don&#8217;t transfer? They start at the bottom, and there will always be someone happy to take their spot, be they good or not. Regardless of your fitness level, background or health issues, they put everyone in the same boat. The client has to go through it, the trainer has to put you through it. The trainer may have greater knowledge, but is not allowed to showcase that knowledge if it doesn&#8217;t match the corporate structure. Where do you find that? Equinox and Sports Club L.A. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about you, but that kinda takes the &#8220;personal&#8221; out of personal training, wouldn&#8217;t you agree?</p>
<p>In <em><a href="http://action-fitness.com/wordpress/how-much-money-does-a-trainer-make-part-2/">Part 2</a>: What And How Trainers Get Paid</em> I will show you how trainers are duped by management by setting difficult to reach goals, only to be blamed later when management doesn&#8217;t offer them the possibility to grow. Learn, as a trainer, which gyms do what and where is the best place to apply for a job as a staff trainer. This affects the buyers too, because it all boils down to money, and if your trainer isn&#8217;t making money, they ain&#8217;t happy. If they are satisfied, I would seriously question their abilities, because a truly knowledgeable trainer pulling from their vast education, knowledge and experience will not give it away for nothing. How much do you think you&#8217;re going to get out of someone making under $20/hr? You need to know what the trainer gets, not what you pay, to truly assess the quality of your training.</p>
<p>Also: Which gyms have trainers without certifications, or advertising trainers with certain skills but are lying about it!</p>
<p><em>Part 3: Negotiate The Rate</em> will show you how to get the best bang for your buck. Trainers, build value! Buyers: be informed! Plus a list of local gyms I recommend (besides mine of course) based on your budget, where you live and what you want out of your fitness.</p>
<p>Make sure you subscribe to my RSS feed, bookmark this page or visit often, as this is information few are willing to disclose! I might even get in serious trouble for it!</p>
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